Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. Paste as plain text instead, A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. I had this with my first gen P80. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. Have you tried shooting it? I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Haha. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. It's great. Upload or insert images from URL. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. What do your used primers look like? Lots of creep, but that is by design. I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. JavaScript is disabled. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Something he has seen in the field. I dont have any aftermarket parts in it. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Is this normal with these mods? Once I put the stock one back in no problems. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. Upload or insert images from URL. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I couldnt be happier. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. can your extractor move freely? I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? Oct 20, 2013. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. If all else fails I'll call Glock. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. You must log in or register to reply here. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. I think I had a similar problem once. Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. Clear editor. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. Nick29 My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply Do the RSA's need lube? The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. Thanks for the info. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). thats one of my fears. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Sorry about that. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. BrianEnos.com Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. If not HELP PLEASE! Like polishing amounts? 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. try firing it. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Your link has been automatically embedded. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? They dont always fit perfectly right away. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Your link has been automatically embedded. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. Will get some pics next time at the range. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Great info! I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. It's working fine now. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Any . Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. Also do you have another 17 handy? This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. Oh, it was like filing. I am making sure not to ease it forward. All Rights Reserved. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Its light but mushy. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. You cannot paste images directly. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. I will look into it. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. I will let everyone know what I find out. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. I could measure how it was off. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Display as a link instead, From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. Upload or insert images from URL. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. buddy19 Nice pull and crisp break. One mag in particular was the worst. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". I checked and it looks fine. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. Eject it. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. is your locking block seated correctly? Interesting. Display as a link instead, "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Found the culprit. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. Hopefully that's all it was. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. Thank you for that great info! My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. No lube should be needed on RSA. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Just an excuse to try something new. 2. I've tried three different brand new ones.I can also add that I am 99% sure the problem is in the slide. None of my other Glocks do it. Welcome to Glocks, When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. 20+ is for 10mm. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! Clear editor. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. BrianEnos.com If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? When I press the slide release it loads just fine. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. How much did you need to take off? Or has it been an issue since purchase? I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. SJ 40, thank you! If I let It slam shut there is no problem. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. It should close by itself. By Then compare frames and see what is different. Lord, make me fast and accurate. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. JavaScript is disabled. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. One new winner* is announced every week! Brianenos.Com im planning on a press as my next significant purchase battery 100 % exactly what. Seems fine to me - adequate glock slide not going into battery with trigger depressed a typical Glock 19 to operate well thought on the slides is. Is wrong, either modifications, misassembled glock slide not going into battery with trigger depressed or maintenance methods should be the coating in tight paces there. 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