Give him some space to take care of his things and do what he needs to do before you start making demands on how much time he should be spending with you or expecting that your relationship will always come first every single time without question. You wish your boyfriend was as attentive and loving as he was at the beginning of your relationship. This was where I got very concerned. I appreciate that you care about me, but Im good, so lets change the topic.. Knowing that fucking up around him was something forgivable (or something which didnt need forgiving) meant I felt braver about trying new things because failing wasnt so terrible an outcome. Or maybe his own shortcomings as a helper? I certainly noticed the drop in my fitness when I moved cities to a place where I could no longer walk to work every day. You dont need fixing, LW. Unfortunately, these storytellers dont get it. I noticed that when I bicycle up hills, a lot of times whatever upset me that day/week/month will start to replay at fever pitch inside my head. In my relationship Im on both sides of the caring/cared for spectrum: I have depression and my partner is physically disabled. Dating you is a privilege you get to grant people, not a burden someone is doing you the favour of shouldering. And you know what? and it helped him maintain his desired weight/made him feel good and he thought it was delish so it meant that I should. There can even be some of both this and the previous issue mixed together, because real people (even ones who use lots of reason) can have conflicting and complex emotions. Taking emotions out of decision making is actually a highly irrational approach. I would say the effect of increased exercise on my mental health is . And you know what? LW that may sound really harsh about your boyfriend, but from where Im sitting it sounds like a very toxic place for you to be. also: breakfast for dinner is awesome and should be a part of every week Unless you dont want it to be, in which case it shouldnt! Now, if he didnt react well to that, I might change it, but he says it is good to hear. Hide the chips? Your boyfriend doesn't understand and his point in life putting a relationship ahead of a career. When your boyfriend stops making an effort, there may be a good reason behind it. The BF sounds like he is familiar territory to you, treating you w/ the disregard & disrespect that as a child you were taught was your due. Friend, I miss you and Id love to see your face. There are many negative reactions a person can have when interacting with a depressed partner. Sure, its better if you are exercising and eating vegetables I guess, but if you dont thats fine youre great anyway. Not because Ive been on the receiving endactually quite the opposite, as I was in a relationship with someone who was constantly miserable and did absolutely nothing to try and rectify it. *cough* Nah, it just made me more sneaky and creative, what were they going to do, strip search me? And not, like, a GOOD parent, either. Granted, I know manipulative people who are in total denial that they are so, and are sure everything they are doing is for other peoples good (again, back to the 5-year-old Im helping!). What is it that he doesnt like anymore and related to your relationship together? Tell your boyfriend that you feel scared and rejected when he doesn't call or text, because you're worried he's not interested anymore (if that's how you feel). Sometimes its nice to have a gentle push towards a sincerely held goal, but getting mad at you for not meeting some standards that he made up? Youre going to hear things like thats the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard. Youre going to hear back all the times youve expressed vulnerability or dissatisfaction with your life as proof that you cant possibly make decisions about anything. They are what they are, and you cant force someone to evolve. One of our deepest needs as humans is to feel understood, and true understanding is not possible without empathy. I can tilt my head to one side and see a boyfriend that this LW needs to dump *yesterday* because all hes doing is trying to build his ideal partner out of what he believes is some kind of nascent state that can go in any direction, like a bunch of stem cells. Ding! One more reason for doing so, as soon as its possible. I told him that, he asked me what he should do instead, and I couldnt answer him. My partner trusted me about what was going on in my own body, even when it was weird and new and disturbing, and he didnt push me. Re-reading I realized the last couple lines sounded really patronizing and I didnt mean it that way. 10 Jennifer Dagle Bartender (2000-present) Author has 329 answers and 699K answer views 4 y Related It sings a familiar refrain, and it so neatly echoes what your Jerkbrain sounds like or sounded like before you started getting treatment for your depression. Id run away and never read Captain Awkward again, probably, with my Jerkbrain cackling in the background gleefully. its one of the downsides of having a toddler he still needs decent meals to function at anything like a survivable level. But its still a good idea to evaluate your relationship and whether your Dude is amenable to changing his behaviour when youve expressed a desire for him to Quit Doing That Thing, and what that might mean about how much he respects you. Like theyd be SO PERFECT IF THEY DID A B AND C. Unfortunately, the reality is that they are not there. Of course only you can decide if this is leftover caretaker anxiety that youre willing to move through with him, or hes controlling in a weird way (or both) and what youre willing to put up with. You are more than good enough you are wonderful, no matter what you are doing, what choices youve made today. Setting limits is an excellent skill to acquire. Logic and reason arent really qualities that describe people. Even if he were good at this coaching thing (spoiler: hes not), he shouldnt be your coach. And if you have depression??? YES! And celebrate a little. Oh wow. http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu/1/77777760800/, https://captainawkward.com/2011/11/05/question-130-my-partner-is-depressed-and-i-am-drowning/, https://captainawkward.com/2013/01/05/429-430-when-depression-is-contagious/, Follow CaptainAwkward.com on WordPress.com. Try to find something low key that has a predictable, repeatable structure so you see some of the same people every time and can form connections naturally over time. Plus depression demons (aka Jerkbrain) will say things like youre being unreasonable feeling x about this situation, so it really helps to have CA or the voices of commenters saying actually, youre perfectly entitled to feel that way. He means well is one of those phrases that is just full of NOPE. He had his arm around you even if it was hot outside and he never stopped using pet names to call you babe, sweetheart, baby girl. If you're not ready, he needs to chill or go find some other hole to fill. You cant have every day be a rest day otherwise youre not actually exercising, but they are needed or you burn out and get injured or sick. Ugh, logick-y dudes who want to tell you how to run your life. I think he has a lot of ideas about how this is affecting him, directly. You know what they do respond to? Being badgered about food choices and exercise choices isnt going to help the LW build good habits. but it gets me out of my room and gives me things to look at and think about other than hating myself. What this involves is offering your emotional openness and love (instead of the tension of stress, fear and needing something to be happy). Yeah. How does this affect you will work on a reasonable person. You are strong and brave to decide that you need to draw boundaries. Im going to read it again as soon Im done with this comment. Make sure his action matches whatever he tells you. OK, clearly Im not making you happy here, what with my not exercising right and not eating well enough and doing the dishes as frequently as you like. Ive seen this shaming from the peanut gallery even in dating relationships. But as things progressed, he developed this habit of picking me up and driving me someplace without telling me where we were going, because it was a surprise. 19 times out of 20, it would be one of the handful of places we always went, but that 1 time in 20, it would be something special. The only trouble is, he was far more of a night owl than me, so these special events werent always to my taste and would keep me up hours later than I was comfortable with. Because if so, you need to skip all the subtler steps and skip straight to Therapist, these things my boyfriend does and says are making it worse, help! Right now. Thanks for this post, Captain and LW. LW, if you want the thoughts of a former terrible girlfriend, mine are: Your boyfriend isnt concerned about you. Let's discuss four things that happen when you actually stop chasing a man and how this affects the relationship. Even if youre really busy with work, uni, or whatever it is that keeps you tied up all day and night long he used to make sure there was always time for the two of you. Be sure to keep the tone of the conversation as calm and neutral as possible if you cant manage this then perhaps consider having a friend mediate for you until both of you are able to talk without getting too emotional about things. Boyfriend stopped texting me good morning. Its scary breaking up with someone when yr already in a vulnerable headspace, but it is very possible that you will actually feel waaaay better without this dude in the picture. Work. This is fine isnt good enough when it comes to relationships, IMO. Beloved Human is very into self-improvement, and that has sometimes inflected the way he talks to me about it. Look again at your list the next day and revise it. Its not that men suddenly become secretive when they lose interest in their relationship, its that men are not by nature sharers of information in the same way females are. We are high maintenance and needy, its all caused by our hormones (and that somehow makes it funny/unimportant), we are dismal and pathetic. Maybe you can get into the routine of attending a kickboxing or yoga class twice a week together. It could be as simple as saying to him, I noticed you've been distant recently, is there something bothering you? I also just wanted to reiterate, in case youre having difficulty with the argument but what if what hes doing helps me? (ALSO he sounds like the sneering voice of trying to stop CSP behaviours once youre in the zone with them.) 3) when I said, I walked for twenty minutes today! (wanting to control you in not good ways), Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good. I want to challenge this. Beloved Human gets it now, and if I send a text saying, X happened, and Im flailing. It can be a nice, easy way to do social. So few people seem to get this. So, I thought about it and suggested I could go buy him a bunch of veggies he likes and he could randomly munch on those when he had cravings. If I wanted to feel uncomfortable in a relationship, I would cover everything with thumbtacks with the sharp points out. My biggest mistakes have been to really harp on what I think he needs to do get out and be social, mainly, which doesnt help his depression and leads to resentment as well. Like, does he have any evidence on which to base this idea that you actually can change people? He took this as a personality defect that he had to badger me into fixing. Some of the links on this website are affiliate links. Excessively monitoring and correcting a partner (with the silent treatment, no less!) I try my best, Im not always great about it, but now when I feel a case of the shoulds coming on, directed at him, I redirect the energy. Heh). When I started college, and made other friends, and had a job of my own. Maybe this will be a huge relief and weight of your boyfriends shoulders once he knows he doesnt have to be responsible for your wellbeing. As the Captain and some of the Army have said, sometimes people need a bit of time to reset themselves mentally from caretaker, and weird things can stand in for anxiety about another person. The Teaser Trailer For Daisy Jones & The Six Just DroppedHeres Everything We Know So Far, Signs You Lack Self-Love (And How To Develop It), The Best Relationship Advice No One Ever Told You, 6 Things To Stop Doing If You Want To Find Love. what if what if what if?!?! Your Jerkbrain is telling you that youre never going to find someone else who will put up with you. A friend of mine called this sort of explanation, First, the earth cooled, Beware of I am very logical as a cover for I dont think your feelings matter and I dont care if I hurt you.. Only I was the fixer, always trying to give my boyfriend helpful advice about how hes doing everything wrong and hed be so much healthier and happier if only hed go to bed earlier, eat more veggies, and agree with me about more stuff. That is how that behaviour makes me feel. Like the Captain said, if it helps you have the conversation, totally go for it. Because I didn't have my phone, he started asking me these questions in person. Anyway, enough about me. If you have the energy and inclination to push yourself, get on with your bad self, but thats extra credit. This guy is manipulative. Your current boyfriend sounds a bit like my first one. Everything I do in therapy has been trying to build confidence, motivation, and self-respect from within and stop relying exclusively on it externally, and then I go home and grapple with someone telling me that I need to do these things to be better. Some guys bitch about paying for dates because of feminism (or whatever). We help each other a ton: I carry the groceries and he holds me and listens when I need it. Then, repeat what you want him to do and make the boundary plain: Consider the ways in which your frustration with not receiving enough attention from your partner has made you more critical of . etc.). Ironically, when I stopped trying to control things and he took ownership of his things, he felt a lot better. You may not actually want to be friends with her, but civility doesn't hurt. And Im never one to turn down a good Jedi telehug, so thanks for that too. But in my mind, that state of challenge turns into a nightmare if thats ALL youre doing. One way to equalize a relationship like this while still showing care for your partners mental health is to maybe suggest fun things to do TOGETHER. So pointing out that their inspirations and coaching actually make it worse probably wont make it through either. He then believes that if you simply were to do the right things then he would get what he wants. I wish Id seen the light a good couple of yeard before I did although I did find I had no guilt whatsoever or any what ifs as I had tried everything. First, I starred (*) the script about diet and exercise above, because I think you should just stop reporting any of this to him and should in fact treat it as highly weird that he wants to know. It sounds as though its not simply a case of dump him, because that can be hard, especially when youre trying to sustain a healing process. Id put one more thing on that disaster preparedness list: a good friend who will hang out with you should you start to feel lonely. You cant change other people, and any coaching or motivating has to be accomplished with the full participation and consent of the coached. One of the most aggravating things for me is that I dont naturally have positive regard for my body outside of what it can do I think I so completely absorbed the idea that I was physically unattractive as a young person that some kind of athleticism seemed like the only remaining possibility for my body to have any kind of worth. Youve clearly already worked out some helpful things. And all those cultural messages about Kids These Days Giving Up and In Our Day We Didnt Divorce, and Thats What For Better And For Worse Means make it really, REALLY hard to believe that this relationship is making me stressed and unhappy is, in actual fact, a perfectly reasonable cause for exiting a relationship. You will never be trying hard enough/doing enough, because it is not about you. If you confront your partner about possible infidelity and get this deflective response, you probably want to start paying closer attention to their whereabouts. There will be someone else out there who is willing to make an effort for you. Its ok to say hey, just keeping my head above water is all Im capable of at the moment, no challenges for me right now.. You should always have an independent life that doesnt revolve around anyone else. I dont know. If he doesnt like and love the you he lives with now, hes not worthy of the brave person who is you. ! certainly did not help with my mood issues. If you were kind of hiding from them because you were depressed and have shame about how long its been, let it go. Your jerkbrain beats you up enough when you have depression. The hurt and pain are felt by both people involved, but if your ex regrets what happened, they might be looking to get a reaction out of you. Drownings letter feels very familiar. 1. Stop trying to control your partner. If he makes you feel like crap about yourself, then you will feel like no one else will want to be with you. Note, however, these are reasons, not excuses. I agree! Don't reach out to his ex. What is that one spot where youve always wanted to go but never had a chance yet? All unsolicited helping has a certain degree of arrogance to it because it necessarily implies that the helpee could not get this done without you. 2010 The Thought & Expression Company, LLC. I need you to scrub the toilet is reasonable you need to do more vigorous exercise isnt. "And if . The best way to spark your boyfriend's interest and get him to call and text you again is to start genuinely loving your life. It is true that a friend can see me in a ratty sweatshirt with my hair uncombed and know that thats a sign that something is bothering me, but making sure I put on a bright clean shirt and fix my hair, while appreciated, is not going to fix whats wrong over the long haul. In my experience, that kind of mindset is tough to crack. Was there a specific moment where things changed, or were they gradual just something small at first but now taking up all of his time so he doesnt have any left for you anymore? Hello, me from the past! We both are very logic- and reason-focused people .Not both of you. ? when someone is abused.). But in my mind, thats a world away from dismissing the idea of comfort altogether. That there is no end in sight, no real goal. Or because he has decided you arent feeling magically better enough yet? Put up with you reason behind it with her, but he says it is not good is possible! 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